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Stora Primörvinstråden , diskussioner om primörviner.
- Thread starter Jimmy Forsman
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chambertin
Medlem
SV: Stora Primörvinstråden , diskussioner om primörviner.
Vad gäller Pontet-Canet så blir det väl att dricka den på hemmet om man skall tro RP:
"A wine for our children’s children. Nobody in Bordeaux is more attentive to detail than Alfred Tesseron is at Pontet-Canet. Fashioned from incredibly low yields, a very late harvest, and a Draconian selection, the 2008 will not be close to drinkability for at least a decade, and it should still be in superb form circa 2060. An absolutely amazing effort, it boasts an inky/black/purple color as well as an extraordinary bouquet of creme de cassis, graphite, charcoal, and incense, blockbuster depth, and full-bodied power. The tannins are high, but they are remarkably velvety as well as well-integrated. Sensational acidity gives the wine precision and vibrancy, but the impression is one of massive concentration and power. The 2008 Pontet-Canet, a candidate for the wine of the vintage, is a tour de force in viticultural precision and winemaking savoir faire."
Cos verkar ju inte tråkig den heller:
"The 2008 Cos d’Estournel possesses an atypically high (85%) amount of Cabernet Sauvignon, with 13% Merlot and 2% Cabernet Franc. The first vintage vinified in the new facility, an unusually high percentage of the crop (78%) was included in the grand vin. The bad news is that yields were a minuscule 25 hectoliters per hectare. This wine achieved 13.8% natural alcohol, and the number of days between the flowering and harvest was 160, compared to the normal 100-110 (one of the keys to understanding the exceptionally high quality that characterizes the 2008 Bordeaux). There were no serious heat waves during the growing season, which meant that the maturation process was slow, long, and ideal. Combine that with the very low yields, and the superb weather from mid-September to late-October, and the often splendid results are much easier to comprehend. The inky/purple-hued 2008 Cos is still very young, and probably will improve even further as the wine came out of malolactic fermentation very late. It reveals exceptionally precise, fresh aromas of black fruits, crushed rocks, licorice, flowers, and subtle smoke. Dense and high in tannin, the extraordinary richness of polyphenols has given the wine power, substance, and depth, but the sweetness of the tannin and the seemingly low acidity, even though the wine tastes remarkably fresh and the pH is only 3.57 (compared to pH’s close to 4 when the fruit is this ripe), has given the wine a precision and elegance that is remarkable. And don’t forget, this is probably the highest percentage of Cabernet Sauvignon ever used in a Cos d’Estournel blend. This wine should gain weight, richness, and a few Parker points by the time it is bottled. It is even denser and richer than the 1996, with an index of polyphenols at 80, which is not unusual for many of the top wines of the vintage, but is extremely high, and more along the lines of what one would find in the top wines of 2005. It should evolve for 30-35 years."
Vad gäller Pontet-Canet så blir det väl att dricka den på hemmet om man skall tro RP:
"A wine for our children’s children. Nobody in Bordeaux is more attentive to detail than Alfred Tesseron is at Pontet-Canet. Fashioned from incredibly low yields, a very late harvest, and a Draconian selection, the 2008 will not be close to drinkability for at least a decade, and it should still be in superb form circa 2060. An absolutely amazing effort, it boasts an inky/black/purple color as well as an extraordinary bouquet of creme de cassis, graphite, charcoal, and incense, blockbuster depth, and full-bodied power. The tannins are high, but they are remarkably velvety as well as well-integrated. Sensational acidity gives the wine precision and vibrancy, but the impression is one of massive concentration and power. The 2008 Pontet-Canet, a candidate for the wine of the vintage, is a tour de force in viticultural precision and winemaking savoir faire."
Cos verkar ju inte tråkig den heller:
"The 2008 Cos d’Estournel possesses an atypically high (85%) amount of Cabernet Sauvignon, with 13% Merlot and 2% Cabernet Franc. The first vintage vinified in the new facility, an unusually high percentage of the crop (78%) was included in the grand vin. The bad news is that yields were a minuscule 25 hectoliters per hectare. This wine achieved 13.8% natural alcohol, and the number of days between the flowering and harvest was 160, compared to the normal 100-110 (one of the keys to understanding the exceptionally high quality that characterizes the 2008 Bordeaux). There were no serious heat waves during the growing season, which meant that the maturation process was slow, long, and ideal. Combine that with the very low yields, and the superb weather from mid-September to late-October, and the often splendid results are much easier to comprehend. The inky/purple-hued 2008 Cos is still very young, and probably will improve even further as the wine came out of malolactic fermentation very late. It reveals exceptionally precise, fresh aromas of black fruits, crushed rocks, licorice, flowers, and subtle smoke. Dense and high in tannin, the extraordinary richness of polyphenols has given the wine power, substance, and depth, but the sweetness of the tannin and the seemingly low acidity, even though the wine tastes remarkably fresh and the pH is only 3.57 (compared to pH’s close to 4 when the fruit is this ripe), has given the wine a precision and elegance that is remarkable. And don’t forget, this is probably the highest percentage of Cabernet Sauvignon ever used in a Cos d’Estournel blend. This wine should gain weight, richness, and a few Parker points by the time it is bottled. It is even denser and richer than the 1996, with an index of polyphenols at 80, which is not unusual for many of the top wines of the vintage, but is extremely high, and more along the lines of what one would find in the top wines of 2005. It should evolve for 30-35 years."
chambertin
Medlem
SV: Stora Primörvinstråden , diskussioner om primörviner.
Vad låg dina Cos på ?Krug88 skrev:
chambertin
Medlem
SV: Stora Primörvinstråden , diskussioner om primörviner.
Kunde inte låta bli så det blev 1 låda av varje Pontet-Canet -07 och -08 till.
Hoppas avdragen går igenom.
Kunde inte låta bli så det blev 1 låda av varje Pontet-Canet -07 och -08 till.
Hoppas avdragen går igenom.
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Jimmy Forsman
I det stora hela tämligen meh...
SV: Stora Primörvinstråden , diskussioner om primörviner.
Ovidkommande babbel borttaget.
//Krug
Ovidkommande babbel borttaget.
//Krug
SV: Stora Primörvinstråden , diskussioner om primörviner.
En sammanställning på Parkers och Jancis Robinsons poäng för de primörer som släpps på måndag. Som vanligt blir ju tabeller inte helt ok men med lite vilja går det att lista ut. Namnet ser ni och poängen har ni längst till höger - först Parker och sedan Robinson. I mitten antal, pris, appellation etc. Ja, ja, ni är läskunniga. Håll till godo.
Uppleveler 2006 som svårt, det verkar vara mycket som hänger på hur man skötte sig i vingården och när och hur många gånger man skördade. Antar att det blir att gå blint efter poäng, då några gamla favoriter blir sågade...
Varunr namn antal pris Appellation Lanseringsdag Parker /100 Jancis Robinson/20
98577 Ch Malescasse 06 750ml 360 162 Frankrike, Haut-Médoc 2009-08-01 86 17
98578 Ch Cantemerle 06 750ml 960 265 Frankrike, Haut-Médoc 2009-08-01 90 15,5
98562 Ch d'Angludet 06 750ml 240 306 Frankrike, Margaux 2009-08-01 87 16
98564 Ch Durfort-Vivens 06 750ml 240 351 Frankrike, Margaux 2009-08-01 87 16
98559 Ch Rauzan-Ségla 06 750ml 240 702 Frankrike, Margaux 2009-08-01 93 17
98574 Ch Poujeaux 06 750ml 600 254 Frankrike, Moulis 2009-08-01 89 16
98218 Ch d'Armailhac 06 750ml 240 351 Frankrike, Pauillac 2009-08-01 91 16
98354 Ch Clerc-Milon 06 750ml 480 415 Frankrike, Pauillac 2009-08-01 91 16
98023 Ch Grand-Puy Lacoste 06 750ml 360 579 Frankrike, Pauillac 2009-08-01 92 17,5
98630 Ch La Grave 06 750ml 240 668 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 80 16,5
98669 Ch Certan de May 06 750ml 144 1307 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 92 16,5
98603 Ch Petit Village 06 750ml 360 457 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 88 15
98670 Ch Clinet 06 750ml 480 586 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 90 16
98602 Ch Conseillante 06 750ml 360 1255 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 93 17,5
99545 Le Carré 06 750 ml 120 1064 Frankrike, Saint-Emilion 2009-08-01 93 15,5
99470 Ch Belair 06 750 ml 120 817 Frankrike, Saint-Emilion 2009-08-01 87 16,5
98282 Ch Beychevelle 06 750ml 480 442 Frankrike, Saint-Julien 2009-08-01 90 16
En sammanställning på Parkers och Jancis Robinsons poäng för de primörer som släpps på måndag. Som vanligt blir ju tabeller inte helt ok men med lite vilja går det att lista ut. Namnet ser ni och poängen har ni längst till höger - först Parker och sedan Robinson. I mitten antal, pris, appellation etc. Ja, ja, ni är läskunniga. Håll till godo.
Uppleveler 2006 som svårt, det verkar vara mycket som hänger på hur man skötte sig i vingården och när och hur många gånger man skördade. Antar att det blir att gå blint efter poäng, då några gamla favoriter blir sågade...
Varunr namn antal pris Appellation Lanseringsdag Parker /100 Jancis Robinson/20
98577 Ch Malescasse 06 750ml 360 162 Frankrike, Haut-Médoc 2009-08-01 86 17
98578 Ch Cantemerle 06 750ml 960 265 Frankrike, Haut-Médoc 2009-08-01 90 15,5
98562 Ch d'Angludet 06 750ml 240 306 Frankrike, Margaux 2009-08-01 87 16
98564 Ch Durfort-Vivens 06 750ml 240 351 Frankrike, Margaux 2009-08-01 87 16
98559 Ch Rauzan-Ségla 06 750ml 240 702 Frankrike, Margaux 2009-08-01 93 17
98574 Ch Poujeaux 06 750ml 600 254 Frankrike, Moulis 2009-08-01 89 16
98218 Ch d'Armailhac 06 750ml 240 351 Frankrike, Pauillac 2009-08-01 91 16
98354 Ch Clerc-Milon 06 750ml 480 415 Frankrike, Pauillac 2009-08-01 91 16
98023 Ch Grand-Puy Lacoste 06 750ml 360 579 Frankrike, Pauillac 2009-08-01 92 17,5
98630 Ch La Grave 06 750ml 240 668 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 80 16,5
98669 Ch Certan de May 06 750ml 144 1307 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 92 16,5
98603 Ch Petit Village 06 750ml 360 457 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 88 15
98670 Ch Clinet 06 750ml 480 586 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 90 16
98602 Ch Conseillante 06 750ml 360 1255 Frankrike, Pomerol 2009-08-01 93 17,5
99545 Le Carré 06 750 ml 120 1064 Frankrike, Saint-Emilion 2009-08-01 93 15,5
99470 Ch Belair 06 750 ml 120 817 Frankrike, Saint-Emilion 2009-08-01 87 16,5
98282 Ch Beychevelle 06 750ml 480 442 Frankrike, Saint-Julien 2009-08-01 90 16
SV: Stora Primörvinstråden , diskussioner om primörviner.
Ok här kommer en liten sammanställning av Systemets härlig ockerpriser på 2006
rna
Systemet Parker England Skillnad
Château Canon La Gaffelière 720 92 473 247
Château Bahans Haut-Brion 858 88 352 506
Château Dauzac 299 87 382 -83
Château Lagrange 404 91 276 128
Château l'Angélus 1888 95 1031 857
Château Lynch-Bages 664 92 580 84
Château Magdelaine 650 90 512 138
Château Pape-Clement 1434 95 862 572
Château Prieuré-Lichine 371 90 322 49
Domaine de Chevalier 422 92 294 128
Ok här kommer en liten sammanställning av Systemets härlig ockerpriser på 2006
rnaSystemet Parker England Skillnad
Château Canon La Gaffelière 720 92 473 247
Château Bahans Haut-Brion 858 88 352 506
Château Dauzac 299 87 382 -83
Château Lagrange 404 91 276 128
Château l'Angélus 1888 95 1031 857
Château Lynch-Bages 664 92 580 84
Château Magdelaine 650 90 512 138
Château Pape-Clement 1434 95 862 572
Château Prieuré-Lichine 371 90 322 49
Domaine de Chevalier 422 92 294 128
