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Anders Landström

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Oskar Bladh skrev:
Det är svårt att hålla sig :D självfallet kommer CdM -96 nästintill alltid att vara för ung, men den framstod så väldigt tam. Kanske tunnelbeteende....
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Eller var den flaskan så. Har druckit ett antal men inte sett de tendenserna. Av prestigevinerna uppvisar 96-Cristal väldigt tråkigt beteende. I den "lägre" skalan är det tyvärr flera 96-or som inte klarar balansen syra/frukt.
 
Oskar Bladh

Oskar Bladh

Medlem
Anders Landström skrev:
Först av allt, en skön provning :) Är personligen förvånad att du tyckte CDM-96an var platt och tunn. Vass och syrlig, ja, men de jag druckit har alla haft frukt som balanserar upp syran.
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Har tidigare druckit både -90 och -88, och jag kan säga att dessa var hästlängder bättre än -96 tyvärr enligt mig. Undrar vad man missat tyvärr. Vass och syrlig håller jag med om, men det enorma fruktiga med aprikos, citrus och persika jag brukar älska i CdM fanns inte. Kanske förtrollad av den grymt bra tidigare Krug -96an som sagt..
 
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Anders Landström

Medlem
Anders Landström skrev:
Svårt att plocka en men Krug , Henriot Enchanteleurs, William Deutz rosé, Philipponnat CdG , Selosse och Billecart-Salmon GC ligger alla högt på min list
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Just det, Comtes :)

Tror en hel del prestiger har en bra framtid framför sig. Dock besviken på RD (tidigare ett fantastiskt vin som på senare tid mest varit oxiderat och tråkigt) Cristal, Dompa och en del till.
 
Gurto

Gurto

Medlem
Så blev det dags att äntligen pröva den som legat och ruvat i källaren någon vecka:
R & L Legraas St Vincent -96 Guldetiketten, dvs den senare degorgerade (risotto med bläckfisk, krabba och ostronskivling)
Doftar gula lite bokna äpplen, mandel, skirat smör, jästigt och brödigt av smöriga kex, mineraliskt både åt det kalkiga och lite metalliskt, lätt vitblommigt. I munnen bra koncentration, gula äpplen, smörigt och brödigt med bra, frisk syra. Eftersmaken är relativt lång.

God och elegant champagne! Gillades skarpt. Hade dock gissat på ett gäng år yngre om jag inte visste vad jag drack. 91p

Passade utomordentligt till risotton (tack @Vino fino ,utgick från ett recept på din blog. Moddade det bara lite.)
 
Oskar Bladh

Oskar Bladh

Medlem
Gurto skrev:
Så blev det dags att äntligen pröva den som legat och ruvat i källaren någon vecka:
R & L Legraas St Vincent -96 Guldetiketten, dvs den senare degorgerade (risotto med bläckfisk, krabba och ostronskivling)
Doftar gula lite bokna äpplen, mandel, skirat smör, jästigt och brödigt av smöriga kex, mineraliskt både åt det kalkiga och lite metalliskt, lätt vitblommigt. I munnen bra koncentration, gula äpplen, smörigt och brödigt med bra, frisk syra. Eftersmaken är relativt lång.

God och elegant champagne! Gillades skarpt. Hade dock gissat på ett gäng år yngre om jag inte visste vad jag drack. 91p

Passade utomordentligt till risotton (tack @Vino fino ,utgick från ett recept på din blog. Moddade det bara lite.)
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Har också avnjutit ett par St Vincent -96. Upplevde du också att de rostade tonerna och mandeltonerna var väldigt framträdande?
 
chambertin

chambertin

Medlem
Grapeskull skrev:
Lördagen gick i Barolos tecken. Fick chansen att genomföra en Elio Altare vertical på deras Vigneto Altare från 1985-2005. Fick sällskap av bland annat @Matlen med fru! Oerhört trevligt, oerhört blött och det är först nu jag återhämtat mig någorlunda för att sammanställa vinerna. Poängen, speciellt dom mot slutet bör som vanligt tas med en nypa salt.


FLIGHT 1 - THE WHITES(5 NOTES)
  • 1996 Roger Brun Champagne Reserve Familiale Grand Cru Extra Brut93 Points
    France, Champagne, Aÿ, Champagne
    (10/12/2014)

    Really enjoyed this Champagne! Big, mature vocal nose full of ripe apples, mashed apples, canned corn, nuts, pine resin and lots of yeast. Amazingly focused acidity, crazy high but still round and perfectly integrated. Really good intensity and a long aftertaste. More oxidised than other champagnes I've had with the same ages, I'm not very familiar with Brun so it could be a part of their style.



  • 2005 Bouchard Aîné et Fils Meursault 1er Cru Les Perrières94 Points
    France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault 1er Cru
    (10/12/2014)

    Absolutely fantastic right now. Lots of oak, but with an amazing depth on the nose. Stony sulfuric minerality, popcorn, coffee, browned butter, cream and green apples. High just slightly tart acidity with a round and creamy body. Impressive concentration and a long, long finish. Not usually a big fan of oak, but this sits just right with me tonight!



  • 2009 Château de Puligny-Montrachet Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Folatières93 Points
    France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru
    (10/12/2014)

    Less oaky compared to the Meursault it partnered with. Dominated by minerality, flint, smashing stones together and matchbox. All more or less derived from sulfuric components. There is also lots of funk and tropical fruit, pineapple and star fruit. Great palate with a high fresh acidity, long lingering intensity. Really nice and apparently great QPR as well!


  • 2012 Spier Creative Block 287 Points
    South Africa, Coastal Region
    (10/13/2014)

    Classic Sauvignon blanc nose. Green grass, elderflower, asparagus, grapey and some rubber mineral. High acidity, but with less edges than the white Burgundies that came right before it. More fruit, rounder, fuller body with a good length and just a tad warm finish. The bigger impression had me thinking new world but couldn't get further than that.

    No big fan of the SB nose in general and even though this is a very good wine I wouldn't go look for it.

    Just now looking it up properly this is apparently a white Bordeaux aspirant with 80% SB and 20% Semillon. Beats me why they just don't bottle it in a Bordeaux bottle then! The wine spent 5 months on its lees but without any contact with oak whatsoever.



  • 2007 Josmeyer Riesling Le Kottabe88 Points
    France, Alsace, Alsace AOC
    (10/13/2014)

    This stood out as an odd ball in the white flight. Much lower acidity on the palate with a round, almost oily full body and lacking slightly in the intensity compartment. There is distinct Riesling aromas on the nose, apples, pears, redcurrants, mushrooms and a good portion of petro-chem.

    I would love to say I enjoyed this as I've tasted some of Josmeyers stuff before and loved it, but tonight this is not good enough. Side by side with some lovely white burgundies this just feels flabby and unfocused.

FLIGHT 2 - THE ELIO ALTARE VIGNETO ARBORINA VERTICAL(8 NOTES)
  • 1982 Giuseppe E Figlio Mascarello Barolo Monprivato92 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    First wine and reference wine in a vertical of Elio Altare Vigneto Arborina.

    Very mature nose with lots of cabbage soup, black tea, leather, peat and prunes. For me this is over the top aroma-wise. The oxidation takes over and ruins some of the complexity. Still very nice and enjoyable.
    The palate is more vital with round mature fruit, good acidity but with almost no tannins and a medium body. Very good length and intensity.

    This collected most points from the other participants and won the WOTN-award. Not my WOTN though.



  • 1985 Elio Altare Barolo Vigneto Arborina91 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    Lots of maturity going on here. Nose is very dried with leather, tobacco, cherries, hay, earth, dirt and raisins. Very similar on the nose to a mature vintage port. Distinct tannins on the palate, but fine and in no way grippy in their structure. Fruit is somewhat rescinded but with a really good intensity and length. Tasty!



  • 1986 Elio Altare Barolo Vigneto Arborina92 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    What surprised me the most during this Altare Vigneto Arborina vertical was how different some of the wines were. Had imagined them to be a lot closer to each other.

    This could almost have fooled me for a lighter, matured northern Rhone Syrah hadn't it been for the very grippy Nebbiolo tannins. Nose is full of spices, pepper, perfumed flowers, fermented sausage, mushrroms and earthy barnyard. Palate is dominated by the tannins, but with a medium body, great intensity and mature fruit. Really liked this one, but without food this was a bit to tannic. With the Gabagoul and Serrano this was pure heaven!



  • 1988 Elio Altare Barolo Vigneto Arborina95 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    This was the WOTN for me.

    Lots of meat on the nose, tartar steak, liquid smoke, sour cherries, barnyard and tar. The palate is not without tannins, but a lot rounder and in great balance with the wine. Great intensity and length.

    For me this was in perfect harmony and tasted just fabulous on its own. Not something I can say about some of the other wines in the vertical.



  • 1993 Elio Altare Barolo Vigneto Arborina94 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    For me the fight tonight was between this wine and the 88' vintage. Had a touch of the meatiness that the 88' had, but with a lot more dirt and forest undergrowth. Dried green herbs, oregano and basil together with marmite. A very foodish nose! But there is also hints of oak, coffee and butter.

    Slightly rounder tannins than the 88', but still quite astringent. Good round mature fruit with a great length and intensity. Right up my alley!



  • 1996 Elio Altare Barolo Vigneto Arborina93 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    Lot more classic Barolo character to be found here than in the previous wines. Cherries, with a hint of raspberry candy, fennel, olives and stony minerality. Very tannic on the palate, gripping and coating the entire mouth. Behind this there is a great intensity and a very good length.

    But for me the tannins take away some of the enjoyment. With some food this really shines though!



  • 2001 Elio Altare Barolo Vigneto Arborina92 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    If the 96' was showing a lot of tannins this is just a step above. Outrageously astringent. High fresh acidity and high quality intensity and length. This is a stunning wine, but needs some years in the cellar to get rounder and more pleasant. The nose is the most typical Piemonte Nebbiolo in the flight with slightly candy cherries, raspberries, flowers, oak and cookie dough.

    It says a lot that one of my least favourite wines in the flight scores 92!



  • 2005 Elio Altare Barolo Vigneto Arborina93 Points
    Italy, Piedmont, Langhe, Barolo
    (10/13/2014)

    This is a very rich and concentrated Barolo. All the classic aromas are there, cherries, cranberries, rose petals, tar and raspberries. But there is also lots of bretty barnyard and plastic rubber smell. The tannins are pronounced and somewhat floating on top of the wine. Behind them is a medium body with high intensity and a very focused acidity. Long, long aftertaste. This has a promising future to look forward to!

FLIGHT 3 - THE BONUS BOTTLES!(7 NOTES)
  • 2006 Diesel Farm Breganze Nero di RossoFlawed
    Italy, Veneto, Breganze
    (10/13/2014)

    This was even worse than the previous bottle. Nose is completely ruined by oxidation. Cabbage soup, the juice you get from defrosting frozen strawberries, more cabbage, prunes and some funk. Palate is just slightly better with mature, dried fruit, distinct acidity, some astringency and a light body. Had this been a cheap red burgundy from the early 80's it had been ok, but this shouldn't be this mature.

    I will be nice and call it flawed, but this is the third bottle and all has been prematurely oxidized. And considering they want about 100€ for the latest vintage I would have expected more.



  • 2012 Schubert Pinot Noir Marion's Vineyard88 Points
    New Zealand, North Island, Wairarapa
    (10/13/2014)

    Typical new world pinot nose with christmas spices, cinnamon, pepper, clove, liquorice and blood orange. Quite fruity on the palate with a high, but soft acidty and a decent length. Was slightly surprised to learn that this was a NZ Pinot, would expect a bit more structure and freshness. Still quite nice and easy drinking.



  • 2005 Château Fourcas Hosten90 Points
    France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Listrac-Médoc
    (10/13/2014)

    Tasted this wine earlier this year, and even though I liked it then it really impressed me a lot more tonight. Very much Bordeaux on the nose with cedar cigar box, coffee, blackcurrants, barnyard and a touch of raw bell pepper. Good acidity and a good intensity. Some tannins but still very approachable right now. I liked this a lot!



  • 2008 Roger Sabon Côtes du Rhône87 Points
    France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône
    (10/13/2014)

    A decent CdR with all the expected attributes. Syrah pepper on the nose together with some matured red Grenache fruit, olives, bay leafs and prunes. Good structure and good intensity but nothing to get excited about.



  • 2005 Louis Latour Corton-Clos de la Vigne au Saint89 Points
    France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Corton Grand Cru
    (10/13/2014)

    This was very nice, but I thought it lacked a bit of structure and was a bit to fruity for a red Burgundy. Still a very nice Pinot nose with some spiciness, toasted oak and lots of red berries. Very fruity on the palate with a good but very round acidity and no tannins to speak about. Decent length. Don't really see in what way this is a 40€ wine, but then again we are talking about Burgundy...



  • 1999 Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt Josephshöfer Riesling Auslese85 Points
    Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
    (10/13/2014)

    Hard not to like, but hard not to get disappointed when you know how fantastic it could be. Nose is right there with the Petroleum, honey, apricot, citrus but the palate is not. No freshness at all and some were even entertaining the idea that this could be some poor attempt at a Sauternes.



  • 1996 Bonny Doon Vineyard RoussanneFlawed
    USA, California
    (10/13/2014)

    Completely oxidized. Had I had it blind I would have guessed some sort of Sherry. Decent palate though and I'm sure it was a good quality wine from the beginning.
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Jag gjorde uppenbarligen helt fel prioritering den kvällen.:(
 
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