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Självklart - och har för övrigt även provat rosé-2008:an. BdB 2008:an är helt fantastisk (tror jag satte 94 p i juni) men fortfarande klart ung. Den vanliga 2008 (satte 90 eller möjligen 91 p när jag provade den i november, minns inte riktigt och gud allena vet var de anteckningarna är just nu) är riktigt bra och lever upp till förväntningarna på årgången. Den har ett långt liv framför sig, men funkar faktiskt redan nu, vilket förvånade mig en smula. Jämfört med Roederer-2007:an är den som förväntat lite kraftigare.Är det nån som testat Louis Roederer BdB 2008 & vanliga 2008?
Henrik, vilka var topp 3? Intressant med så många NVSkumpaövning ikväll:
Guy Charlemange Grand Cru
Guy Charlemange Mesnillésime
Paul Bara Brut Réserve
Roland Champion Blanc de Blancs
Goutorbe Cuvée Rosé
Mouzon Leroux Brut Grande Réserve
Pertois-Moriset Blanc de Blancs
Quenardel Blanc de Blancs Vielles Vignes 04
Paul-Etienne Saint Germmain Tradition Divine Grand Cru Brut
Paul-Etienne Saint Germmain Tradition Grand Cru Blanc de Blancs Brut
Vve Fourny & Fils Blanc de Blancs, Brut Premier Cru
Hatt et Söner Grande Cuvée, Premer Cru Blanc de Blancs Brut
Hatt et Söner Grande Cuvée, Premer Cru Blanc de Blancs Extra Brut
Guiborat Fils Blanc de Blanc
Barons de Rothschild Brut
M-N Ledru Grand Crû Brut
M-N Ledru Blanc de Noir Cuvée du Goulté 2009
Doyard-Mahé Blanc de Blanc Extra Brut 2010
Doyard-Mahé Blanc de Blanc Cuvée Désir Extra Brut
Patrick Soutiran Blanc de Noir, Brut Grand Cru
Philippe Glavier La Grace d´Alphaël Grand Cru Blanc de Blancs
Av de tre, är för mig Rosen den klarast lysande stjärnan, tydlig syra som är uppbackad av ljuvlig frukt, provat BdB ett par gånger grym syra, troligen 10 år innan den blir attraktiv!Självklart - och har för övrigt även provat rosé-2008:an. BdB 2008:an är helt fantastisk (tror jag satte 94 p i juni) men fortfarande klart ung. Den vanliga 2008 (satte 90 eller möjligen 91 p när jag provade den i november, minns inte riktigt och gud allena vet var de anteckningarna är just nu) är riktigt bra och lever upp till förväntningarna på årgången. Den har ett långt liv framför sig, men funkar faktiskt redan nu, vilket förvånade mig en smula. Jämfört med Roederer-2007:an är den som förväntat lite kraftigare.
Ser fram emot när Cristal 2008:an kommer så man kan prova alla Roederer-2008or mot varandra. Fast det krävs nog en sponsor utan budgetbegränsningar om Cristal Rosé 2008 ska få vara med.
FUGU naturligtvisOk Stefan, vad åt du till det då?
Ja den var så omfattande att jag inte hann med allt.Det var ingen dålig lista!
Som förväntat dvs inte så bra.Hur stod sig Hatt et Söner i sällskapet?
Patrick Soutiran, Quenardel och M-N Ledru var de som imponerade mest på mig.Henrik, vilka var topp 3? Intressant med så många NV
Nu blev jag verkligen avis...Fick prova ett helt gäng med viner från Guigal häromdagen. Fantastiska viner och en fantastisk producent.
FLIGHT 1 - WHITES(2 NOTES)
FLIGHT 2 - REDS 1/2(4 NOTES)
- 2012 Delas Frères Hermitage Blanc Domaine des Tourettes90 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Most definitely a high quality wine, but it is far of my taste and thus 90 points but no more. Not a lot of fruit, but quite fresh nontheless. Citrus, flowers, grape, stony minerality, a bit of roasted oak and lots of raw wood.
My problem with white Rhone wines is the non existent acidity, for me they are just lacking what makes white wines so great! The palate has a quite oily, fat texture. Very good intensity and a long, just slightly warm finish.
- 2003 E. Guigal Ermitage Blanc Ex-Voto92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
I don't understand this wine. Incredibly deep and complex nose with candle wax, butter, paint bucket, turpentine, corn, wood, ceder, furniture polish, smoke, leather and bitter oranges. Distinct oxidation, with similarities to the Colheita port tasted earlier the same day. Even though it has a good intensity, a full body it is strangely lacking in composure.
I guess you really have to enjoy this type of wine, what a waste on me!
FLIGHT 3 - REDS 2/2(4 NOTES)
- 2009 E. Guigal Hermitage90 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Very well made, and quite modern styled. True to its heritage though, with some black pepper, lots of dark fruit, blackberries, blackcurrants and a little plum. On top of this Liquorice, and oaky spices, cloves and cinnamon.
Approachable on the palate, with a medium+ acidity, lots of fruit a bit of tannins, good intensity and a long, dry finish.
- 2008 E. Guigal Hermitage93 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
I can't understand the low ratings this wine and vintage gets. This is freaking delicious!
Lots of spices on the nose, with green peppercorns, black tea, earth, meat, blackcurrants, funk, forest mushrooms and some green notes.
Fresh, high acidity with a medium body. Dry, but round tannins and good intensity and length. Not a wine for the fruit lovers, but for us who enjoy a bit of elegance and freshness this is just spot on
- 2006 E. Guigal Hermitage92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Lovely wine! Nose is slightly less spicy compared to the '08 but with more meat and funk. Steak tartare, cured sausage, raspberries, blackcurrants and a bit of bayanus yeast perfume. Medium+ acidity, medium body, and a really good length. Impeccable balance and starting to show some maturation. Dry, long finish. Darn tasty!
- 1999 E. Guigal Hermitage92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Not very surprisingly a lot more maturity here compared to the '06 by its side. Meat bonanza with sour, cured sausages (Swedish Onsalakorv), raw meat, black minced pepper, barnyard, earth, soy sauce, mushrooms and a bit of cherries. Developed palate with less fruit and a more pronounced acidity. Medium body, good intensity and a dry finish. No tannins to speak of. Grows a lot in the glas during the night. Yummy!
- 2009 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde91 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
A bit heavy and sticky on the nose, but to its defense it had impossible competition (LaLaLa). Spicy, peppery sausages, liquorice, fennel, perfume, dark fruit, blackberries, plums, sweet cherries, rice crackers and some raw meat. Palate is dominated by fruit with a medium+ acidity, good intensity and length. And as what seems to always be the case with Guigals wines, great balance. Dry finish, but not tannic.
- 2006 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Out of the evenings 10 Guigal wines, this is the only one showing hints of sulfur. Rubber, burned, roasted oak, minerals, earth, menthol and dark cherries. Medium acidity with lots of fruit. Medium+ body with good intensity and a dry, good finish. Tasty but pales in comparisons to what comes next.
- 1997 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque97 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Out-f-ing-standing! Truly a great wine! Not the biggest nose, but incredible complexity. Distinct maturity, green pepper, butter, wood, roasted oak, cherries, jasmine flowers, raw meat, violets, fennels, raspberries and some blackcurrants. Deep layered nose.
But the real treat is the fantastic palate. Dry, silky smooth tannins, creamy texture, with a fresh high acidity and round supple fruit. Medium body, high intensity and a looong, loong finish that just keeps growing in the mouth for minutes.
- 1992 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Landonne95 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Clearly more mature than the '97 La Turque by its side. And I won't keep my last bottle for too long. Nose is dominated by lovely roasted oak, coffee, leather, tobacco, ceder, pepper, meat and some green notes.
High acidity, mature fruit and velvety smooth texture. High intensity, and a long, but quite dry finish. Looking forward to try again, on its own. This time it wouldn't shine in the shadow of its younger brother.
Wow, Rhône-nörden i mig blir verkligen avundsjuk på den listan! Många schyssta viner och så givetvis La Turque som grädden på moset! Förra helgen blev det 2009 Côte-Rotie Brune et Blonde och den imponerade som vanligt på mig, men i övrigt har jag missat många av Guigals andra viner... Måste åtgärdas!Fick prova ett helt gäng med viner från Guigal häromdagen. Fantastiska viner och en fantastisk producent.
FLIGHT 1 - WHITES(2 NOTES)
FLIGHT 2 - REDS 1/2(4 NOTES)
- 2012 Delas Frères Hermitage Blanc Domaine des Tourettes90 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Most definitely a high quality wine, but it is far of my taste and thus 90 points but no more. Not a lot of fruit, but quite fresh nontheless. Citrus, flowers, grape, stony minerality, a bit of roasted oak and lots of raw wood.
My problem with white Rhone wines is the non existent acidity, for me they are just lacking what makes white wines so great! The palate has a quite oily, fat texture. Very good intensity and a long, just slightly warm finish.
- 2003 E. Guigal Ermitage Blanc Ex-Voto92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
I don't understand this wine. Incredibly deep and complex nose with candle wax, butter, paint bucket, turpentine, corn, wood, ceder, furniture polish, smoke, leather and bitter oranges. Distinct oxidation, with similarities to the Colheita port tasted earlier the same day. Even though it has a good intensity, a full body it is strangely lacking in composure.
I guess you really have to enjoy this type of wine, what a waste on me!
FLIGHT 3 - REDS 2/2(4 NOTES)
- 2009 E. Guigal Hermitage90 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Very well made, and quite modern styled. True to its heritage though, with some black pepper, lots of dark fruit, blackberries, blackcurrants and a little plum. On top of this Liquorice, and oaky spices, cloves and cinnamon.
Approachable on the palate, with a medium+ acidity, lots of fruit a bit of tannins, good intensity and a long, dry finish.
- 2008 E. Guigal Hermitage93 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
I can't understand the low ratings this wine and vintage gets. This is freaking delicious!
Lots of spices on the nose, with green peppercorns, black tea, earth, meat, blackcurrants, funk, forest mushrooms and some green notes.
Fresh, high acidity with a medium body. Dry, but round tannins and good intensity and length. Not a wine for the fruit lovers, but for us who enjoy a bit of elegance and freshness this is just spot on
- 2006 E. Guigal Hermitage92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Lovely wine! Nose is slightly less spicy compared to the '08 but with more meat and funk. Steak tartare, cured sausage, raspberries, blackcurrants and a bit of bayanus yeast perfume. Medium+ acidity, medium body, and a really good length. Impeccable balance and starting to show some maturation. Dry, long finish. Darn tasty!
- 1999 E. Guigal Hermitage92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Not very surprisingly a lot more maturity here compared to the '06 by its side. Meat bonanza with sour, cured sausages (Swedish Onsalakorv), raw meat, black minced pepper, barnyard, earth, soy sauce, mushrooms and a bit of cherries. Developed palate with less fruit and a more pronounced acidity. Medium body, good intensity and a dry finish. No tannins to speak of. Grows a lot in the glas during the night. Yummy!
- 2009 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde91 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
A bit heavy and sticky on the nose, but to its defense it had impossible competition (LaLaLa). Spicy, peppery sausages, liquorice, fennel, perfume, dark fruit, blackberries, plums, sweet cherries, rice crackers and some raw meat. Palate is dominated by fruit with a medium+ acidity, good intensity and length. And as what seems to always be the case with Guigals wines, great balance. Dry finish, but not tannic.
- 2006 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Out of the evenings 10 Guigal wines, this is the only one showing hints of sulfur. Rubber, burned, roasted oak, minerals, earth, menthol and dark cherries. Medium acidity with lots of fruit. Medium+ body with good intensity and a dry, good finish. Tasty but pales in comparisons to what comes next.
- 1997 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque97 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Out-f-ing-standing! Truly a great wine! Not the biggest nose, but incredible complexity. Distinct maturity, green pepper, butter, wood, roasted oak, cherries, jasmine flowers, raw meat, violets, fennels, raspberries and some blackcurrants. Deep layered nose.
But the real treat is the fantastic palate. Dry, silky smooth tannins, creamy texture, with a fresh high acidity and round supple fruit. Medium body, high intensity and a looong, loong finish that just keeps growing in the mouth for minutes.
- 1992 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Landonne95 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Clearly more mature than the '97 La Turque by its side. And I won't keep my last bottle for too long. Nose is dominated by lovely roasted oak, coffee, leather, tobacco, ceder, pepper, meat and some green notes.
High acidity, mature fruit and velvety smooth texture. High intensity, and a long, but quite dry finish. Looking forward to try again, on its own. This time it wouldn't shine in the shadow of its younger brother.
Just 2009orna imponerade inte särskilt i sammanhanget, men bra viner är det utan tvekan. Hermitagerna imponerade egentligen mest med tanke på sitt pris, 300-400kr. Att La Turque och La Landonne levererade så bra var väldigt roligt, men jag hade å andra sidan blivit besviken om dom inte gjort det. Guigal är verkligen en producent med genomgående hög kvalitet.Wow, Rhône-nörden i mig blir verkligen avundsjuk på den listan! Många schyssta viner och så givetvis La Turque som grädden på moset! Förra helgen blev det 2009 Côte-Rotie Brune et Blonde och den imponerade som vanligt på mig, men i övrigt har jag missat många av Guigals andra viner... Måste åtgärdas!
Du är alltid välkommen om du har vägarna förbi västkusten! Och vi hade utan problem kunnat vara 1-2 personer till på provningen. Som vanligt gott om vin över, men det ger ju utrymme att studera slattarna under några dagarNu blev jag verkligen avis...
Glad för din skull, men... Saknade VERKLIGEN min egen närvaro :-(
Nu vet jag vad jag missade. Så kan det gå, verkar ha varit en kalasprovning!Fick prova ett helt gäng med viner från Guigal häromdagen. Fantastiska viner och en fantastisk producent.
FLIGHT 1 - WHITES(2 NOTES)
FLIGHT 2 - REDS 1/2(4 NOTES)
- 2012 Delas Frères Hermitage Blanc Domaine des Tourettes90 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Most definitely a high quality wine, but it is far of my taste and thus 90 points but no more. Not a lot of fruit, but quite fresh nontheless. Citrus, flowers, grape, stony minerality, a bit of roasted oak and lots of raw wood.
My problem with white Rhone wines is the non existent acidity, for me they are just lacking what makes white wines so great! The palate has a quite oily, fat texture. Very good intensity and a long, just slightly warm finish.
- 2003 E. Guigal Ermitage Blanc Ex-Voto92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
I don't understand this wine. Incredibly deep and complex nose with candle wax, butter, paint bucket, turpentine, corn, wood, ceder, furniture polish, smoke, leather and bitter oranges. Distinct oxidation, with similarities to the Colheita port tasted earlier the same day. Even though it has a good intensity, a full body it is strangely lacking in composure.
I guess you really have to enjoy this type of wine, what a waste on me!
FLIGHT 3 - REDS 2/2(4 NOTES)
- 2009 E. Guigal Hermitage90 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Very well made, and quite modern styled. True to its heritage though, with some black pepper, lots of dark fruit, blackberries, blackcurrants and a little plum. On top of this Liquorice, and oaky spices, cloves and cinnamon.
Approachable on the palate, with a medium+ acidity, lots of fruit a bit of tannins, good intensity and a long, dry finish.
- 2008 E. Guigal Hermitage93 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
I can't understand the low ratings this wine and vintage gets. This is freaking delicious!
Lots of spices on the nose, with green peppercorns, black tea, earth, meat, blackcurrants, funk, forest mushrooms and some green notes.
Fresh, high acidity with a medium body. Dry, but round tannins and good intensity and length. Not a wine for the fruit lovers, but for us who enjoy a bit of elegance and freshness this is just spot on
- 2006 E. Guigal Hermitage92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Lovely wine! Nose is slightly less spicy compared to the '08 but with more meat and funk. Steak tartare, cured sausage, raspberries, blackcurrants and a bit of bayanus yeast perfume. Medium+ acidity, medium body, and a really good length. Impeccable balance and starting to show some maturation. Dry, long finish. Darn tasty!
- 1999 E. Guigal Hermitage92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Not very surprisingly a lot more maturity here compared to the '06 by its side. Meat bonanza with sour, cured sausages (Swedish Onsalakorv), raw meat, black minced pepper, barnyard, earth, soy sauce, mushrooms and a bit of cherries. Developed palate with less fruit and a more pronounced acidity. Medium body, good intensity and a dry finish. No tannins to speak of. Grows a lot in the glas during the night. Yummy!
- 2009 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde91 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
A bit heavy and sticky on the nose, but to its defense it had impossible competition (LaLaLa). Spicy, peppery sausages, liquorice, fennel, perfume, dark fruit, blackberries, plums, sweet cherries, rice crackers and some raw meat. Palate is dominated by fruit with a medium+ acidity, good intensity and length. And as what seems to always be the case with Guigals wines, great balance. Dry finish, but not tannic.
- 2006 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde92 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Out of the evenings 10 Guigal wines, this is the only one showing hints of sulfur. Rubber, burned, roasted oak, minerals, earth, menthol and dark cherries. Medium acidity with lots of fruit. Medium+ body with good intensity and a dry, good finish. Tasty but pales in comparisons to what comes next.
- 1997 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque97 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Out-f-ing-standing! Truly a great wine! Not the biggest nose, but incredible complexity. Distinct maturity, green pepper, butter, wood, roasted oak, cherries, jasmine flowers, raw meat, violets, fennels, raspberries and some blackcurrants. Deep layered nose.
But the real treat is the fantastic palate. Dry, silky smooth tannins, creamy texture, with a fresh high acidity and round supple fruit. Medium body, high intensity and a looong, loong finish that just keeps growing in the mouth for minutes.
- 1992 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Landonne95 Points
France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Clearly more mature than the '97 La Turque by its side. And I won't keep my last bottle for too long. Nose is dominated by lovely roasted oak, coffee, leather, tobacco, ceder, pepper, meat and some green notes.
High acidity, mature fruit and velvety smooth texture. High intensity, and a long, but quite dry finish. Looking forward to try again, on its own. This time it wouldn't shine in the shadow of its younger brother.
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